NRPE vs. check_by_ssh
Kevin Keane
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Wed Mar 25 19:17:56 CET 2009
Wouldn't the SSL certificates provide authentication comparable to SSH
keys? I'm not familiar with how NRPE uses SSL, but I would assume that
you could also use client certificates?
Michael Medin wrote:
> Sorry to barge in (without reading the thread but...)
>
> Security wise NRPE lacks any form of authentication which is something
> SSH has so in this regard SSH is the more secure one...
>
>
> // Michael Medin
>
> Idriss ARABBAJ skrev:
>
>> Hi Kevin,
>>
>> I carefully read your speech about this subject and I found you a lot
>> of insist on security offering by ssh, but you can also configure
>> nrpe to work with ssl so I think we will have no difference at this
>> level, then what do you think?
>> best regards
>>
>> 2009/3/25 Kevin Keane <subscription at kkeane.com>:
>>
>>
>>> I think you are comparing apples and oranges here, because in most
>>> situations that I can think of, the decision is dictated by the network
>>> topology. If you are exclusively on a trusted private network,
>>> check_by_ssh really doesn't offer any benefits. Conversely, if your
>>> topology involves the Internet or some other untrusted network (WiFi),
>>> then you wouldn't want NRPE in the first place.
>>>
>>> The only exception to the above that I can think of is when it comes to
>>> deciding between using check_by_ssh over an untrusted network, vs. NRPE
>>> through some other kind of tunnel or VPN. But in that case, you'd incur
>>> encryption overhead either way, and the comparison is very different
>>> from the question you asked.
>>>
>>> All that said: I don't have any first-hand experience, but I suspect
>>> that the impact of establishing 2200 ssh connections in a five-minute
>>> span (assuming that you are using a five-minute check interval) is
>>> pretty substantial. The main impact actually lies in establishing and
>>> tearing down the connections, key negotiations etc.; the encryption
>>> during the data phase probably has only limited impact because most
>>> checks only transmit a few bytes back and forth.
>>>
>>> SSH does much better with longer-duration connections when the keys are
>>> already exchanged. This is even more true if you have a router-based
>>> VPN, because in that case the overhead is offloaded to a different machine.
>>>
>>> So if you have the option of sending the checks as NRPE through one or a
>>> few long-term VPNs: you are probably going to be better off. Of course,
>>> in the big picture, your mileage may vary.
>>>
>>> Christopher McAtackney wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I was wondering if someone could give a brief overview of the pros /
>>>> cons of using NRPE to monitor my remote hosts versus using the
>>>> check_by_ssh command?
>>>>
>>>> I'm aware that check_by_ssh increases the CPU overhead, but I'm not
>>>> clear on the level of impact here - does this increase the load on the
>>>> monitoring machine in direction relation to the number of hosts being
>>>> monitored? For example, if I was using check_by_ssh to monitor, say,
>>>> 2000 services spread across 200 hosts, would I experience significant
>>>> slowdown on my monitoring machine?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers for any info,
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
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