Holy language wars? (was: Rewriting nsclient? (was NSClient 1.0.8.0 Installation Problem))

Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk roy at karlsbakk.net
Tue May 13 10:41:30 CEST 2003


To be brief:

I've been programming Pascal since TP 5.5 and the latest of those years in 
entirely OOP. I know Pascal quite well, but not a lot of others do. If we 
want to make nagios/nsclient maintainable and not dependant on one guy (or a 
few) that might get hit by a bus tomorrow, we should choose a language with 
more commonly available knowledge. IMO, this list might include Perl, C, C++, 
Java, but _not_ Pascal, Ada, Cobol, Fortran, Lisp, C#, D or other 
old/new/strange/dead/not born yet languages.

roy

On Thursday 08 May 2003 22:50, Darren Harrison wrote:
> Thanks Roy,
> That was quite a humourous comment you made that you think "Pascal is a
> dead language".
>
> I've heard this comment before about other programming languages like Perl,
> LabVIEW, Pascal, Cobol ... the list goes on.
> And really the comment only shows how unaware the person is of the often
> thriving developer communities.
> If you head to Borland.com you might find that "Pascal" (in the form of
> Delphi of course) is going really well, has been ported to Linux (as the
> ultimate Linux programming IDE called Kylix), and is heading toward .Net.
> (that's a full stop - they didn't change the name again... ;-)
> And on Kylix and Delphi, Borland have created "Personal Editions" which you
> can download for free and use to create GPL programmes - so you don't have
> to buy anything and you still get one of (if not the) best IDE's around (on
> top of one of the best languages - IMHO).
> The last thing kind of isn't much to do with Delphi, but shows how good the
> Borland guys are.... The framework that Delphi/C++ Builder was originally
> built on is called VCL. This recently changed to CLX and is an awesome
> framework for building programmes. In a completely uninformed opinion, but
> it looks to me like Microsoft's .Net looks a lot like CLX. I heard they
> bought one of the VCL people and I wouldn't be surprised if they "copied"
> the best of CLX. So the Borland ideas & products don't seem to be
> disappearing in a hurry.
>
> Darren.
>
> ----- Forwarded by Darren Harrison/GGL on 09/05/2003 08:25 -----
>
> > Message: 3
> > From: Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk <roy at karlsbakk.net>
>
> <snip>
>
> > My point exactly. I don't want to buy any software to change the product!
>
> <snip>
>
> > Still:
> > Pascal is a dead language. It'll be harder and harder to find people
>
> to=20
>
> > maintain the source. This piece of software will probably be rewritten pr
>
> =
>
> > etty=20
> > soon anyway, so why not now?
> >
> > roy
> >
> > Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk, Datavaktmester
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