SV: Nagios 2.0 stable

[jeff vier]

On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 10:24 -0500, Aaron Carr wrote:
> While I understand your statement, and for the most part, agree with
> the underlying intent, some of us are forced to care.
> 
> At the moment, I'm working for a fortune 100 company.  I would be
> crucified if I used a *beta* software in a production capacity.  This
> company has just barely allowed Linux, and several other well known
> open source applications (Apache, Tomcat)  for use to begin with.
> 
> For those of us in environments such as this, we *must* wait until the
> beta is declared successful, and that tag is removed from the version.
> 
> Does that mean that there won't be bugs?  Of course not.  Does that
> mean that the processes for support or bugfixes change?  Again, of
> course not.  That's the just the rules in places like this.

edit the code and make it say "stable" ;)

Okay, I see your point.

I'll amend my opinion to begin "Unless it's a matter of policy..."

I will say, though, I am very glad I don't have to be stifled by such
arbitrariness.  I am expected to provide the best there is to offer, not
provide it in any certain way.  A major pet peeve of mine (such that I
would be very actively looking for work should it occur at this point in
my career) is someone who doesn't know any better (often referred to as
"management") telling me *what* to implement, as opposed to what the end
goal is.  I've been doing this a long time - I am fully capable of
determining the right tool for the job.

Also, *very* fortunately, my boss is a strong OSS believer (to the
occasional dismay of some of the higher-ups) and I don't ever have to
justify what tools I'm using.  I just do it, and show the results.

--boinger


> On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:05:44 -0600, jeff vier
> <boinger at tradingtechnologies.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 11:39 +0100, Bergström Sebastian wrote:
> > > I realise that my question is unclear. I'm refering to the fact that 2.0 still is in beta.
> > > We are running v.1.2 currently and are interested in the v.2.0.
> > >
> > > I'm wondering if anyone has an idea of how much time it might take before 2.0 can go into a stable (non-beta) state.
> > >
> > > Any idea?
> > 
> > To put it bluntly: Who Cares?
> > 
> > There are so many of us running it in production (I, myself, have been
> > doing so since "alpha"), isn't that good enough?
> > 
> > There will always be bugs, no matter what you call it (alpha, beta, pr,
> > rc, gold, etc).
> > 
> > In my, and I'm sure many others', experience, super-pre-double-alpha
> > code from a nice community-supported project like this is still going to
> > have less bugs than anything similar from Microsoft no matter how many
> > "final" versions they have.
> > 
> > And if something major does come up, there's usually a fix/work-around
> > in a few hours or days, not weeks or months.
> > 
> > So, just run it.  If you don't like it, I'll buy you a coke.
> > 
> > --boinger
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