Nagios isn't ready for prime time
Russell Adams
RLAdams at AdamsInfoServ.Com
Mon May 16 05:47:39 CEST 2005
I'm working on a program called NACE (Nagios Automatic Configuration
Engine) meant to automatically create configurations from a variety of
data sources, including network and SNMP scans.
More specifically, you first create host and service templates, then
in a shell script write a query for the network to see what hosts
should use the templates and create the appropriate configs.
I'm working on v0.3 and the documentation's still in progress, but
there is some. However, the prototype works, including performing
multithreaded scanning.
If you're interested, check out:
http://www.adamsinfoserv.com/AISTWiki/bin/view/AIS/Software
Russell
On Sun, May 15, 2005 at 06:32:02PM -0400, Marc Belanger wrote:
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> jim tate wrote:
> > First I want to say that the Nagios documentation is very good.
> > But expecting a new to Nagios person to build the object config files
> > is so time consuming and not understanding a lot of what is required in
> > cfg files.
>
> Isn't it this way with any worthwhile product? I've used (supported
> even) Tivoli products, and recently viewed a demonstration for the
> Heroics product.
>
> First, none of these products (including Nagios) can be fully versatile
> "out-of-the-box" or vanilla in application.
>
> Understanding how its built is a huge feather in my hat, for -- when
> something breaks, which will unavoidably happen. I think Nagios, on its
> own, is far easier to install and manage than then either my experience
> recollections with Tivoli, or my guesses at resources required for
> Heriocs. I'm not trashing either product, but the commercially driven
> aspect has it's own problems.
>
> Secondly, auto-discovery tools, like some patch manager tools use, imho
> is not a good idea, nor worth the effort of tuning. In this case, I find
> it far more efficient to start building with simple host/service checks,
> and add-on, 1 step at a time.
>
> > Why not put the object cfg files in Nagios as the app is compiled.
> > For a IT person first being subjected to Negios , the time factor is to
> > much.
>
> I'll agree the basic config files could be put into the nagios tree
> without much work or adverse effects. Its a little more than moving the
> .sample files, but fully testing the install, and website functionality
> would be a nice, but small, benefit.
>
> > I know I'm going to get blasted for my statement , but I'm not trying
> > to be nasty, but constructive.
>
> I failed to see any documentable suggestions, other than the config file
> strategy, but that could simply be the way you phrased your comments,
> and my Sunday afternoon buzz colliding.
>
> > I know Nagios will be a very worthwhile app. in the future and I truly
> > look forward to it, as a radicle
> > Linux user.
>
> To me, it's far more worthwhile right now in cost, time, and knowledge
> than buying an enterprise system + included consulting fluff with canned
> configurations that need to be tweaked anyways.
>
> This is a good conversational, and thought provoking thread.
>
> - -Marc
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