Nagios Looking Glass 1.1.0 beta 1 released

[Andy Shellam]

Hi Lars,

I agree with you 100%.  If I, as a user (techie or not), looking at my own
machines, I'd expect some sort of summary; I wouldn't care about anyone
else's or even the network as a whole.  As you quite rightly said Lars, the
'overall health' needs to be aimed at the users "select machines".  NLG v1,
however, has no concept of machine ownership, it simply shows the entire
Nagios estate.

This isn't a fault, that's how it was designed.  It is, however, also where
it falls down, and the need for a solution targeted to a different audience
becomes apparent, hence the v2 project.  

I designed v1 originally for my own use, to present users who have signed up
to my services as an ISP with an overview of my network and how well (or
badly) it was performing.  Users didn't have machines or services of their
own; they just wanted to be able to see if network problems were affecting
the servers they may use.

Since I released it to the Nagios community last year, a wider audience have
seen the potential for using NLG in ways it wasn't originally designed,
which is fantastic because it means I get the chance to build on the success
of the project, and hopefully design and build a solution that more and more
people will find useful :-)

The "host-filter" hack was indeed a hack as many people were requesting the
same thing, but with the current code architecture it wasn't possible to do
a permanent fix, and it was indeed a hack put in simply to tide people over
until v2 is ready.

Andy


> ----- Original Message -----
> Subject: Re: [Nagios-users] Nagios Looking Glass 1.1.0 beta 1 released
> From: Lars Stavholm <stava at telcotec.se>
> To: "Andy Shellam" <andy.shellam-lists at mailnetwork.co.uk>
> CC: "Giles Coochey"
<gcoochey at sapphire.gi>,"nagios-users at lists.sourceforge.net"
<nagios-users at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Date: 19/02/2008 7:01
> 
> 
> Andy Shellam wrote:
> > Hi Giles,
> > 
> > Thanks for your comments.  The 'Network Health' page is designed to
reflect
> > the status of the network as a whole which, I agree, can be confusing
when
> > host-specific filters are specified.  An example scenario of the
reasoning
> > behind this is:
> > 
> > You're viewing the 'network health' page and select the "down hosts
only"
> > filter.  All the hosts in this filter will be down, thus rendering the
> > network "100% down", which obviously looks bad.
> 
> Of course it does, and as an example of the situation at hand,
> pretty useless.
> 
> How about viewing this problem from the users point of view?
> And I mean the non-techie user. Then it would be quite obvious
> that Network Health should reflect the network health of the
> users machines, otherwise you would have a bit of explaining
> to do to a bunch of not so happy users, that would look at you
> with those eyes saying "now there's a real techie, he hasn't
> got a clue, let's get out of here".
> 
> When using the "down hosts only filter", one might consider not
> letting this reflect on the overall Network Health at all,
> actually. IMHO the Network Health should show the summary of
> health for the users select machines only, at all times,
> filter or not.
> 
> Other than that, NLG is a brilliant solution, badly needed
> out there (here at least), and I've been looking forward to
> try it out with nagios 3.x. Thanks for the effort Andy!
> 
> Just my 2c worth
> 
> Cheers
> /Lars
> 
> > NLG v2 is going to be designed to work better with users, permissions
and
> > groups and will be better suited to those who don't want a simple
"network
> > overview" and would like to restrict what different users and groups can
> > see.
> > 
> > In terms of licensing, clause 4c states that if the work, ie. NLG, is
> > publicly displayed then all copyright notices must be kept intact,
including
> > the author's name, designated company, title of the work and URL. 
Therefore
> > if you're providing access to NLG through a publicly-available URL or
> > website, the copyright notice must be left intact, otherwise if it is
only
> > available to a set number of users (e.g. through an internal URL or
> > intranet) I'm happy for the copyright notice to be removed.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Andy
> > 
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> Subject: Re: [Nagios-users] Nagios Looking Glass 1.1.0 beta 1 released
> >> From: Giles Coochey <gcoochey at sapphire.gi>
> >> To: nagios-users at lists.sourceforge.net
> >> Date: 18/02/2008 15:59
> >>
> >>
> >> Andy,
> >>
> >> I thought I'd take a look at your project, as I have some interest in
> > having some sort of dynamic portal which customers can query and I've
seen
> > your project surface time-and-time again on this list.
> >> I've implemented the 'hack' to limit which hosts a particular user can
> > see, but notice that they still see the "Overall Network Health" still
shows
> > the values for all hosts & services, rather than those in the currently
> > selected filter.
> >> It would be much better if the granularity for this tool followed the
> > 'Nagios way' and used the contact group for all visibility.
Unfortunately
> > this is very important for our environment.
> >> In terms of the license, what if I want to remove all references to
Nagios
> > Looking Glass, your name etc... from the portal interface? Is that going
to
> > be an issue? I'm not talking about removing any copyright or license
> > information from the source files itself, just the customer facing side.
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Giles
> >>
> >> ________________________________________
> >> From: nagios-users-bounces at lists.sourceforge.net
> > [mailto:nagios-users-bounces at lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Andy
> > Shellam
> >> Sent: 18 February 2008 13:06
> >> To: nagios-users at lists.sourceforge.net
> >> Subject: [Nagios-users] Nagios Looking Glass 1.1.0 beta 1 released
> >>
> >> The Nagios Looking Glass is pleased to announce the availability of NLG
> > 1.1.0 beta 1.
> >> This is the first release in the 1.1 series that makes NLG compatible
with
> > Nagios 3 (tested with Nagios 3.0rc2) while maintaining compatibility
with
> > Nagios 2.x.
> >> The major changes in this version against 1.0.6 are:
> >> * Added configuration option to change the location of cached files
> > client-side (http://tracker.networkmail.eu/task/337)
> >> * Locking for cache files (http://tracker.networkmail.eu/task/336)
> >> * comments.dat and downtime.dat no longer available (change these to
> > status.dat in server/sync-files/s3_config.inc.php)
> > (http://tracker.networkmail.eu/task/333)
> >> * Allow override of default timezone
> > (http://tracker.networkmail.eu/task/214)
> >> * Ability to disable client-side caching
> > (http://tracker.networkmail.eu/task/126)
> >> The new release
> > can be downloaded from www.nagioslookingglass.co.uk/downloads.
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Andy Shellam
> >> Lead Developer
> >>
> >>
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