IPv6 support

Andreas Ericsson ae at op5.se
Fri Jun 10 14:48:29 CEST 2011


On 06/10/2011 02:31 PM, Michael Friedrich wrote:
> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Nagios-users] IPv6
> support From: Andreas Ericsson <ae at op5.se> To: Nagios Users List
> <nagios-users at lists.sourceforge.net> Date: 2011-06-10 14:09
>> 
>> So give _address6 official status *in the ui*. Or make a config
>> item that lets users specify which custom variables to show in the
>> UI. Or show all of them by default. That's a change that actually
>> makes sense, would have been far less intrusive and would have made
>> very nearly everyone happy (especially the "configure which you
>> want to see", with a general switch to show all and then
>> include/exclude parameters to filter passwords and whatnot out of
>> the UI). Wasn't that the real reason behind the patches in the
>> first place? That's at least the only real unique benefit from this
>> over using custom vars.
>> 
>> The problem here is actually laziness and possibly poor
>> maintenance. When presented with the patch, you need to ask the
>> submitter; "What purpose does this patch serve and why is it so
>> generally important that we have to break the ABI?" Given some
>> prodding, you would have found out that the user really just wants
>> to see a special custom variable in the web-interface. Achieving
>> that is basically peanuts, given half a day and a junior coder
>> fresh out of kindergarten, so it's quite likely the submitter could
>> have been persuaded to rewrite the patch like that so it would have
>> been easy to maintain it. It would also have made it acceptable in
>> the Nagios core and would have made life easier for those broker
>> module authors that actually care about supporting Icinga and for
>> the users that use modules with it.
>> 
>> That turned a bit harsh there. Sorry about that.
> 
> conclusion - you won't accept such patches,

I won't accept patches that break things when there are easier ways
to achieve what the user desires that doesn't break things.

> i can live with the extra
> work they will cause. even with addons staying compatible with icinga
> but not supprting the address6 field. everything else still remains
> compatible and tested. but that's not the point within nagios related
> stuff. there are other nagios patches pending, still breaking the abi
> (see some of opsviews patches and those from nagios-devel) which will
> make a change happen somewhere in the future. so maybe after a while
> users demand (even those from your customers), and it will hit nagios
> too. until then, let's just ask people out there what they really
> want and how *they* would achieve that. either live with it, patch it
> or even pay for it.
> 

Yup. That's what major releases are for. I guess I'm just a bit whiny
because I'd hoped Icinga would stay "compatible with Nagios in all
possible ways" as was promised from the beginning.

Ah well. We live and we learn. Now it's time for me to learn how much
wine I can drink on a friday night without passing out. I'm looking
forward to that particular experiment. Cheerios :)

-- 
Andreas Ericsson                   andreas.ericsson at op5.se
OP5 AB                             www.op5.se
Tel: +46 8-230225                  Fax: +46 8-230231

Considering the successes of the wars on alcohol, poverty, drugs and
terror, I think we should give some serious thought to declaring war
on peace.

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