<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"><meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"><base href="x-msg://102/"><style></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dan,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>As I understand it, the issue is less about Nagios and more about npcd. Nagios merrily produces the perfdata files and then npcd comes along and scoops them up, but as it’s processing them it’s opening a lot of rrd files and inserting data into them. So really it’s npcd that’s the problem. Well, not really a problem, but ultimately it’s doing its thing and then Nagios gets less than a fair share of the box’s I/O. It’s not that it’s horrible right now, but we’re starting to notice it and I would tend to be concerned about scaling problems.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Honestly even with Nagios 3, it seems like Nagios’ own I/O is entirely manageable so far with strategic use of ram disk. It’s just putting Nagios and PNP4Nagios (plus Apache to serve up the graph contents which I’m also not happen going on on the same server) on the same boxes that I don’t like.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hmm. I was unaware that rrdcached could be configured to receive data over the network. I’m assuming that means that npcd can be configured to send. I’ll check that out. Still doesn’t feel like an elegant solution, but it may fit the bill.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Daniel Wittenberg [mailto:daniel.wittenberg.r0ko@statefarm.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 03, 2012 11:08 AM<br><b>To:</b> Nagios Users List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nagios-users] solutions for off-server PNP4Nagios perfdata processing?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>You might consider looking at 4.0 since disk i/o is almost nothing, but short of that looked at using rrdcache to send the processing to another server?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Dan<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>On Oct 3, 2012, at 9:33 AM, Frost, Mark {BIS} wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Hello. Has anyone come up with solutions for processing Nagios performance data on a server other than a Nagios server? We’ve been processing perfdata results on our Nagios server(s) for a while now and increasingly it’s just eating up too much I/O to make me comfortable.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Yes, we do use rrdcached and yes, I realize that shuffling data around on different disk spindles and controllers would help, but in today’s world where companies don’t like building any kind of physical server let alone one with all that additional hardware, that’s not entirely an option for us.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I realize that once the perfdata files are on the dedicated graphing server(s), processing them into RRD files there should be a no-brainer. My problem is figuring out how to get them there without say, using a NAS device. (If I/O’s a problem locally, I don’t want to shuffle that I/O to an even slower network device).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>It would be ideal if somehow there was a process that I could just send that data to and have it picked up remotely. Like if maybe Merlin have a special kind of peer that just received a stream of perfdata or something. Anything else I could imagine would be some kind of home-grown solution like say pumping events into a messaging system from the Nagios server(s) and then letting the graphing server pick them up from the message queue(s). I could also imagine some kind of fancy-pants module in Nagios 4 that did something like this, maybe.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Any thoughts would be appreciated.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. 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