SV: Nagios 2.0 stable

[jeff vier]

On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 10:45 -0500, Petrucci, Joseph wrote:
> It is hard enough to talk large companies into using opensource products without having to explain to them it is a Beta. I have several companies that I monitor remotely and will not run a beta version. It would look to my clients like do not care if I can actually support them or not. Also In my testing (which admittedly just started) I am having trouble with Distributed Nagios instances. I believe it is just a config issue and have not had much time to research it but Version 2.0 is not as stable as 1.2 as far as I can see.

I run a distributed 2.0 environment (3 dist sites, the central server
also doing active checks).

I had a large boost in performance and stability from going to 2.0.

Beta doesn't mean ANYTHING.

If beta *meant* the code was *necessarily* more stable, explain anything
from Redmond to me.

--boinger

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagios-users-admin at lists.sourceforge.net
> [mailto:nagios-users-admin at lists.sourceforge.net]On Behalf Of Sean Dilda
> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 10:31 AM
> To: boinger at tradingtechnologies.com
> Cc: Bergström Sebastian; nagios-users
> Subject: Re: SV: [Nagios-users] Nagios 2.0 stable
> 
> 
> jeff vier wrote:
> > On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 11:39 +0100, Bergström Sebastian wrote:
> > 
> >>I realise that my question is unclear. I'm refering to the fact that 2.0 still is in beta. 
> >>We are running v.1.2 currently and are interested in the v.2.0.
> >>
> >>I'm wondering if anyone has an idea of how much time it might take before 2.0 can go into a stable (non-beta) state.
> >>
> >>Any idea?
> > 
> > 
> > To put it bluntly: Who Cares?
> 
> Most professionals.
> 
> > 
> > There are so many of us running it in production (I, myself, have been
> > doing so since "alpha"), isn't that good enough?
> 
> Just because you walk the bleeding edge doesn't mean everyone else wants to.
> 
> > 
> > There will always be bugs, no matter what you call it (alpha, beta, pr,
> > rc, gold, etc).
> > 
> > In my, and I'm sure many others', experience, super-pre-double-alpha
> > code from a nice community-supported project like this is still going to
> > have less bugs than anything similar from Microsoft no matter how many
> > "final" versions they have.
> > 
> > And if something major does come up, there's usually a fix/work-around
> > in a few hours or days, not weeks or months.
> 
> I'm not opposed to using software that's still under development, but I 
> try to avoid it whenever possible in production environments.  If its as 
> good as you say it is, then maybe it shouldn't be called beta, but 
> that's an argument to be made with the developers, not the users.
> 
> For most projects, terms like 'alpha' and 'beta' have certain meanings 
> in regards to how stable/tested the code is and how likely it is to 
> change before final release.  And likewise, official releases tend to 
> not do things like drastically change the config layout as part of a 
> bugfix, whereas an alpha or beta might.
> 
> You may have no problems with it, and that's great.  However, there are 
> people out there whose job performance is tied to how well stuff like 
> this operates.  As such, they tend to make the wise choice of waiting 
> for an official release before investing time setting up something and 
> risking having to completely change your setup in a couple of weeks.  To 
> many professionals, having an official (as opposed to beta) release is 
> an indication from the developers that this code is ready for prime time 
> and will have bugfixes that don't cause you to rework things.
> 
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